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Stainless Steel TCR
#11
(11-11-2015, 01:54 AM)Madboy Wrote:  
(11-11-2015, 01:45 AM)gfdeputy2 Wrote:  
(11-11-2015, 01:22 AM)Madboy Wrote:  I have just got 50 Metres of SS 304 for £2.99p. That should last a lifetime. Going to do a CLR wrap tonight and see what its like.

Can someone advise what temperature to fire SS at please?

Thanks

Madboy

I am running a .5ohm SS coil in my crown on my mini @ about 530F
which is about 277C

Thanks

I thought SS was supposed to fire at lower temperatures? I dont know why i think that. Is SS a better vape? What wattage are you also firing at?

Regards

Madboy
Not sure I know it is higher on my VTC than on my Xcube by about 50 degrees current wattage is 50
my opinion is the SS seems to have better flavor but could be just me or my Crown (all the Crown came with was SS coils)






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#12
(11-11-2015, 01:54 AM)Madboy Wrote:  
(11-11-2015, 01:45 AM)gfdeputy2 Wrote:  
(11-11-2015, 01:22 AM)Madboy Wrote:  I have just got 50 Metres of SS 304 for £2.99p. That should last a lifetime. Going to do a CLR wrap tonight and see what its like.

Can someone advise what temperature to fire SS at please?

Thanks

Madboy

I am running a .5ohm SS coil in my crown on my mini @ about 530F
which is about 277C

Thanks

I thought SS was supposed to fire at lower temperatures? I dont know why i think that. Is SS a better vape? What wattage are you also firing at?

Regards

Madboy



not that its a better vape,
but its very similar to kanthal interms of workability and maintenance,

unlike titanium which is a pain in the ass to work with.

compared to titanium,ti offers a cleaner taste,by a small margin.,hardly noticeable unless youve been vaping for a while now and keen on flavors
ss thou is a lot warmer.compared to titanium.
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#13
(11-11-2015, 01:03 AM)BlackCRX Wrote:  I'm a noob when it comes to SS coils, can you please explain how 304 is better than 316?
Flavor? Stiffness when wrapping? etc..

304 increase in resistance with increase of temp is slightly higher.
http://www.steam-engine.org/wirewiz.asp

For vaping purposes, there is no real difference between 304 & 316

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_steel_grades
Quote:Type 316—the second most common grade (after 304); for food and surgical stainless steel uses; alloy addition of molybdenum prevents specific forms of corrosion. It is also known as marine grade stainless steel due to its increased resistance to chloride corrosion compared to type 304. 316 is often used for building nuclear reprocessing plants.

There are no halides in our juice so 316 is not important. 304 is fine.
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#14
(11-11-2015, 01:03 AM)BlackCRX Wrote:  
(11-10-2015, 12:03 PM)user359 Wrote:  
(11-10-2015, 09:40 AM)louiesquared Wrote:  Well that's unfortunate. I think that 316 or 317 are more readily available. Anyone have a good source for 304 SS?

I have no idea why vapers buy 316/L.
304 is better for TC, is cheaper and basically the same makeup as 316/L.

304 for TCR calculations is fine for 316. You don't need to buy new wire.

I'm a noob when it comes to SS coils, can you please explain how 304 is better than 316?
Flavor? Stiffness when wrapping? etc..

SS304 has 8% nickel n no molybdenum
SS316 has 10% nickel n 2% molybdenum.
On paper 304 looks better.

@louiesquared
fasttech.com
I got the MKWS branded SS304
Make sure is good quality SS not some cheap brass plated SS. Coz the Joyetech chip will pick it up.

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#15
(11-12-2015, 11:53 AM)Smok_King Wrote:  
(11-11-2015, 01:03 AM)BlackCRX Wrote:  
(11-10-2015, 12:03 PM)user359 Wrote:  
(11-10-2015, 09:40 AM)louiesquared Wrote:  Well that's unfortunate. I think that 316 or 317 are more readily available. Anyone have a good source for 304 SS?

I have no idea why vapers buy 316/L.
304 is better for TC, is cheaper and basically the same makeup as 316/L.

304 for TCR calculations is fine for 316. You don't need to buy new wire.

I'm a noob when it comes to SS coils, can you please explain how 304 is better than 316?
Flavor? Stiffness when wrapping? etc..

SS304 has 8% nickel n no molybdenum
SS316 has 10% nickel n 2% molybdenum.
On paper 304 looks better.

@louiesquared
fasttech.com
I got the MKWS branded SS304
Make sure is good quality SS not some cheap brass plated SS. Coz the Joyetech chip will pick it up.

I ended up getting a few different gauges from http://www.creatingunkamen.com/products/stainless-steel-artistic-wire

I verified with them that it is 304SS. It works great and the prices are very reasonable.
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#16
After missing the mark badly with Ni200 wire for my Bellus RTA and my Twisted Messes RDA, I decided to give SS a shot. All my prebuilt TC coils were either Ni200 or Ti and while they are pretty good for prebuilt, I wanted to give SS a shot because I could get the coils small enough to fit in my RTA and still be above .05 ohms. I've been using it for several months now and never looked back. I have my RDA setup with a .15ohm dual coil and my Bellus normally reads between .19 and .21 on my RX2/3 mod. I use SS316L because of availability and it is warmer, and the flavor is great. I usually don't use TC mode for it and run it in wattage mode from 45-60W. I'm thinking of building some with a smaller wire diameter to bump up the resistance and then fire it in TC or TCR mode. I'm loving it the way it is for now though. And using lower wattages, it will run all day on my VTwo Mini with a fresh battery.
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#17
SS wire is all I use for building. I started using it for the reason with so many atty's I didn't have to remember what build I had in each one so it doesn't matter if I run it in Temp or wattage






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