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  NYC ignores science in war on vaping
Posted by: Kermit - 08-11-2017, 01:47 PM - Forum: E-cigarette News and Regulations - No Replies

NYC ignores science
in war on vaping

By Jeff Stier August 10, 2017 | NEW YORK POST

The biggest loser of the City Council’s crackdown on e-cigarettes this week? New Yorkers’ health.

On Aug. 9, the council voted to slash the number of vape shops allowed to operate and to ban new stores from opening. It’ll be devastating to small-business owners seeking to compete legally with big tobacco.

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Worse, by drastically ratcheting down the number of vape shops in the city, smokers will have fewer places to buy their favored alternative to cigarettes. Sure, they could still buy online, but they’d be missing out on individualized guidance on which products will give them the best chance at quitting.

Vape-shop owners are typically former smokers who saved their own lives by ignoring the advice of nanny-staters and quit smoking aided by e-cigarettes. They’ve become entrepreneurs whose businesses succeed when smokers quit. Now, both are more likely to fail.

It’s hard enough to even begin to make the effort to quit smoking. We know how addictive cigarettes are. But smokers considering e-cigarettes are being discouraged in the face of misinformation coming from once-trusted groups like the American Heart Association and American Lung Association. Both groups actively supported the vape-shop ban.

Big Pharma, which funds such groups, is concerned that the pesky vape shops are rendering their largely ineffective FDA-approved anti-smoking products obsolete.

The council just doesn’t get it. Vape-shop staffers, with their real-world success stories and product knowledge, have the potential to be highly effective, especially for entrenched smokers who were unsuccessful with other methods.

What’s more, unlike floundering taxpayer-funded health counselors, already forbidden from giving smokers factual information about e-cigarettes, vape-shop employees don’t cost taxpayers a penny. (Unless we consider the lost tax-revenue from cigarette sales.)

Yet instead of welcoming vape shops, the city wants to shut them down.

Uncle Sam, thankfully, is moving in the other direction, finally. Obama-era regulations would have banned almost every e-cigarette that’s ever been used to quit smoking. But as FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb stated when unveiling a new federal approach, “The overwhelming amount of death and disease attributable to tobacco is caused by addiction to cigarettes — the only legal consumer product that, when used as intended, will kill half of all long-term users.”

The FDA’s new comprehensive approach to nicotine regulation envisions a world “where adults who still need or want nicotine could get it from alternative and less harmful sources.” Unless of course they live in New York City, where vape shops would be as obsolete as pay phones.
And it’s not just the Trump FDA touting e-cigarettes to help smokers quit. In July, UK health agency Public Health England released its long-awaited tobacco-control plan, which ambitiously seeks to cut regular smoking among 15-year-olds from 8 percent to 3 percent or less and to reduce adult smoking from 15.5 percent to 12 percent or less.

The plan calls for “permitting innovative technologies that minimize the risk of harm,” and to “maximize the availability of safer alternatives to smoking” — e-cigarettes, for example.
Unlike New York, England will “seek to support consumers in stopping smoking and adopting the use of less harmful nicotine products.”

PHE even boldly recommended that vaping not be included in “smoke-free legislation and should not routinely be” banned in workplaces. In 2013, through the “smoke-free” law, New York City nixed vaping, which produces no smoke, not only in bars and restaurants, but outdoors at parks and beaches.

It’s not as though vaping helps only Brits quit. Last month, a National Institutes of Health-funded study, using US Census Bureau data, found that “the substantial increase in e-cigarette use among US adult smokers was associated with a statistically significant increase in the smoking-cessation rate at the population level.”

The US and UK governments see lower-risk nicotine products as a tool to bring smoking-related diseases down to levels not seen in generations. But in New York City, legislators want to recklessly regulate responsible vape retailers out of existence. What are they smoking? Perhaps the city’s sky-high cigarette taxes cloud their thinking.

Jeff Stier heads the Risk Analysis Division at the National Center for Public Policy Research.

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微笑 Cuboid Pro honest review.
Posted by: Crazybasil - 08-10-2017, 01:05 AM - Forum: CUBOID Pro - Replies (5)

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Dearly beloved people of Joyetech gifted me this beautiful thing and I'm very grateful to them. Firstly - I'm in love. This thing is like an iPhone of vaping. It feels great and looks great. It's very nice to handle and fits the pocket in my shirt. Menu is very intuitive and the mod itself has many nice features. I have set time and date, my weight and height, enabled pedometer, downloaded my personal screensaver and set up lovely ProCore Aries. I love the way screen works - with all those blocks it's hard to mess up while handling the mod. I haven't tested the nicotine calculator function yet, I will try it later.
The only two cons of this mod - I don't want to peel factory seals from screen and glass, because I don't want scratches, but they are very badly attached, with bubbles.
Also, the screen side near the TAP button is, how do I say. Badly glued or whatever. When I press on that side of the screen - it "goes deep" like it's nothing there to hold the screen. Only corner of the screen that does that is near the TAP button, maybe you need to check with factory, dear Joyetech, to prevent this in future.
Other than that - I love this device. It's very good and looks very expensive. It's a show-stopper.

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  New Point System? Take a look at it!
Posted by: Kermit - 08-08-2017, 10:04 AM - Forum: The Lounge - Replies (12)

New Point System?
Take a look at it, need your advice


Hey guys,
Long time no see. Today, I'd like to have something new for our fans - The Point System.
What is it? Why we need it? How does it work?
So we want make it measurable in valuing your contributions to our forum. Therefore, we hope more fans will be active in our social. This forum is made for all Joyetech fans and here we hope you'll get the real vaping fun with other fans around the world. You may have a terrific idea, and maybe that'll become true. We share our vaping passions, experience, questions and find happiness and answers here. And most importantly in return, we giveaway Joyetech vaping mods to our loyal fans now and then. That's why we want start this Point System.

Details about the Point System:
1. This point system only opens for regular users (which are certified by moderators) ;
2. This point system will be valued by the reputations you acquired.
3. Moderators will add certain points to your reputation if you created a new thread or comment that's helpful or meaningful (All threads should be original, moderators have the right to delete it if it is not proper or breaks the rule).
4. Users with reputations higher than 20 points (we only calculate new points from now on) will have the chance to win the Giveaway.

This is your forum, you're free to go in this vaping field.
Now you're invited to share your ideas on this new point system.
Thank you.

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  Colors
Posted by: Crazybasil - 08-07-2017, 09:53 PM - Forum: The Lounge - Replies (8)

I love the new Cyan for EKEE, but will there be more to follow? Judging by the paint on Joyetech mods right now - we can see rich orange, lime, deep purple colors. Also, I would like a resin version of Primo 2.0 or some other devices.

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  Forum Suggestion
Posted by: louiesquared - 08-05-2017, 05:16 AM - Forum: General Questions - Replies (2)

Most of the other forums that I visit have a handy feature that is missing on this forum. When you log in it shows you any threads that are unread but the issue here is that when you click on it it takes you to the first response in the thread. On most other forums when you click the main thread link it will take you directly to the newest unread response. This is a nice feature. Is there a setting that makes this happen?

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  Cuboid 20700.
Posted by: Crazybasil - 08-05-2017, 01:57 AM - Forum: The Lounge - Replies (5)

So, it's a dull day at work today. I had some 24mg Joyetech RY4 from my ProCore Remix RDA wired with 0,12 coils and it hit me. So, Joyetech - don't judge me for what I have done. This is Cuboid 20700 and he is perfect, really. Make it. It needs some more work,
but it's a long way forward.
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  Will you take an e-cig with you on the trip?
Posted by: Anastasia Liu - 08-04-2017, 04:03 PM - Forum: The Lounge - Replies (14)

Have you ever traveled many times with your e-cig? When did you travel last time? Did you take some pictures with your device?
If you are happy to share your travel photos with e-cig that would be fantastic!

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  EKEE with ProCore Motor Launching
Posted by: Anastasia Liu - 08-03-2017, 10:06 AM - Forum: Joyetech New Products - Replies (22)

Dear all,

We're glad to introduce you the new Joyetech EKEE and ProCore Motor atomizer kit.

Inspired by the automobile smart key, the Joyetech EKEE box mod aesthetically fits your hand comfortably. Featuring a 1.3 inch OLED color display and an easy-to-go interface, this compact starter mod is available in multiple attractive finishes. Having a plenty of options for you to choose, the ProC series heads are all capable with the ProCore Motor atomizer: from direct lung or mouth to lung, from massive vapor production to optimal flavor. The EKEE mod reaches a formidable 80W max power with a sequence of unique features including 2A quick charge, real-time clock, preheat and the new nicotine intake calculation. The aesthetics and modesty make it one of a kind vape mod that you never experienced before.

Click to learn more about the EKEE with ProCore Motor kit.

Joyetech Group
Aug. 3, 2017
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  A Sad Day for Cloudage in the LSquared House
Posted by: louiesquared - 08-02-2017, 07:00 AM - Forum: The Lounge - Replies (7)

My original Joyetech eVic VT (not the VTC Mini) finally gave up the ghost.哭

This was my first Joytech VW device and lasted well over two years. I havent used it too much for the last year cause the battery was not lasting as long but I still used it a couple times a week. There is just something special about that device. Anyway I thought about getting a vTwo in that sexy burgandy color but after looking around I realised that the only places that still carry it are way too expensive. Sad day indeed.

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  VT Software to Upgrade CUBOID Pro
Posted by: Anastasia Liu - 08-01-2017, 05:17 PM - Forum: Cuboid Pro - Replies (2)

Dear all,

We're glad to introduce you the new version Firmware for your Cuboid Pro.

What’s special in Version 1.11?

1. Cuboid Pro supports wallpaper display and screensaver.

2. Set timeout protection

3. Preheat function

4.Nicotine intake  

5.Turn on/off the TAP button

6.Reverse charge

Have you ever tried the new version? Check it out: http://www.joyetech.com/mvr-software/?sid=239

What do you think of it?

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