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  FDA May Regulate Vapor Products Over The Counter.
Posted by: Ippolit - 04-11-2018, 02:54 PM - Forum: E-cigarette News and Regulations - No Replies

For our USA members, there seems to be positive progress on one side and a wittling away of that progress on the other. Vested interests again? Who knows.

FDA May Regulate Vapor Products Over The Counter.

Vape News Magazine

Published 2 weeks ago on March 29, 2018 By John Castle
CNBC reports that the U.S. Food & Drug Administration may eventually regulate vapor products as over the counter drugs. In an interview with CNBC’s Meg Tirrell at the “Healthy Returns” conference, FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb is quoted as saying:

“Right now, we’re looking very actively at could we bring e-cigarettes into the over the counter regulatory pathway, which would give us many more tools to look at both safety and benefit, and study whether or not an e-cigarette actually does promote smoking cessation and also give us many more tools to actually study the toxicology associated with it and see what effects it might have on the lung.”

Whether this signals good or bad news for consumers and vapor products businesses has yet to be seen; however, there is reason, based on Commissioner Gottlieb’s comments and on the Food & Drug Administration’s acknowledgment of a continuum of risk with tobacco products, that the agency’s approach under this administration will be far less intrusive than its previous stance on vaping. For example, Commissioner Gottlieb also had the following to say:

“At the very time I am trying to take nicotine out of combustible tobacco, I don’t want to be sweeping the market of products that provide an alternative to smokers who want to get access to nicotine.”

The challenge the Food & Drug Administration faces is a substantial one: empowering adult smokers to switch to a less harmful alternative to smoking while preventing underage consumers from accessing nicotine products. Historically, with most smokers already falling into the habit of smoking before the age at which they’re legally able to purchase or possess tobacco products, this challenge may prove as insurmountable in the 21st century as it has always been.

The FDA, however, is expected to tackle that challenge, at least in part, by aggressively monitoring marketing and taking action against products which appear to be marketed toward underage consumers.

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  American Cancer Society Shifts Stance On E-Cigs In Position Statement
Posted by: SmokinJoe23 - 04-07-2018, 04:24 AM - Forum: E-cigarette News and Regulations - Replies (2)

American Cancer Society Shifts Stance On E-Cigs In Position Statement

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  Joyetech ESPION Solo honest review.
Posted by: Crazybasil - 04-04-2018, 02:42 PM - Forum: Products Review - Replies (2)

Joyetech reigns on the electronic cigarettes market for a decade already and celebrate this event on a grand scale, advancing their technologies at maximum speed. In this context, ESPION Solo has a special value, because it not only carefully holds the legacy of single-battery Joyetech models, but also raises it to a completely new height.

Joyetech ESPION Solo operates using a single 21700 battery (or 18650 battery via a special "sleeve" from the kit). The complete kit includes a 21700 battery, a spare ProCA 0.4 Ω coil (the same one is coming pre-installed), as well as an USB cable with the support for fast charging, manuals and some spare parts. The model is equipped with the 1.3 inch touch screen with a resolution of 64 by 128 pixels. Solo supports fast charging with currents up to 2A, capable of delivering power up to 80 watts and has all the necessary protections and modes, including bypass. The minimum supported resistance is 0.05 Ω in TC modes and 0.1 Ω in VW.
The device is 132 and a half in height, 39.5 in length and 25.5 millimeters in width, making him almost identical in size with his predecessors and competitors. But the device weight with the installed battery is about 240 grams (176 grams without an atomizer) - this is the payment for the increased work time.

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It was a warm spring day, I was reading Robinson Crusoe and Daniel Defoe's novel got me completely captivated. The silence was continually disturbed by the ticking of massive wall clock. Faithful Joyetech ESPION was peacefully resting on the charge, blinking the battery indicator with all his might and drawing my attention. The question began to itch in my head - what kind of electronic cigarette would be irreplaceable, if I suddenly was left on an uninhabited island? Brushing aside all sorts of stupid ideas like solar batteries, the condensation of liquid directly from the moist tropical air and the built-in mosquito repeller, the question evolved into a more urgent one: what device is going to be so compact, that it would fit my summer shorts pockets without any problems? ESPION once again blinked his indicator. “Two batteries on the usual walk were somehow too much,” I concluded for myself. And then some blurry ginger spot got my attention, because it was sweeping towards my work table with loud noise.

The spot became more visible and slowed down its movements, gradually materializing into an usual red cat. He walked slowly past and pointedly hit me with his tail, them jumped on the table and sat down in front of the white-blue box, yawning in the process. The cat and the box clashed in a merciless game of glances, the loser in which was destined a terrible fate - to be thrown off the table. The loser was, of course, determined by the cat, because of the two players he was the only more or less intelligent. The victim had fallen on the parquet boards with a blunt noise, and the winner, with the speed of the Police interceptor, ran away into the endless labyrinths of the
I got up and examined the fallen box, the corner of which was slightly tucked to one side and the inscription "Solo" was seen clearly.
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So our first meeting took place. From the depths of the postal package, several smaller boxes with the image of ESPION Solo appeared. On their backs there was a color description - black, gunmetal, dazzling and pink (more like peach or even salmon, in fact). Inside, the entire package was neatly laid out on the "shelves". Each device carried a rechargeable battery of 21700 format with a sticker on the contact that had to be removed, and underneath the holding case there was an atomizer, a spare coil and a box with all kinds of spare parts. All the manuals were carefully laid between these layers, like a tomato slice in some epic burger.

The first thing that catches your eye when you look at this device is how sturdy and reliable it is. Battery door this time is being held by magnets located on each side of the body. Fire button is engraved with “Limited Edition” with some very nice precision, other button (called Fn) and USB port are located under the display. Everything is controlled by a bright and very responsive touchscreen here: swipe left – you will see some info, swipe right – menu access, touch the top or bottom edge of the screen – adjust the wattage. The Fn button is responsible for blocking the screen, in order to avoid spontaneous triggering. All confirming actions in the menu are performed by swiping backwards, don't press any buttons as it will return Solo to the main menu without saving the settings. A bit strange looking clock acts as a screen-saver, unfortunately, their appearance can not be changed for now. But hold the Fire button while the device is off and you will see a slightly more convenient clock.
Regarding the functional, there are no surprises – 80 watts and all possible modes are right on the spot, but with the weighty bonus work time from 21700 battery. Device supports fast charging, it will bring Solo back to action in no time.
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ProCore Air atomizer is a work of art. Joyetech got rid of the old refilling system with the lock, freeing the road to a wonderful sliding cover. Without the possibility of changing the volume, Air became more leakproof, although I have never seen the older versions leaking as they were. Acrylic snake skin mouthpiece can be black, white or hot pink, depending on the color of the device. The ProCA coil is the first (it is hoped that it will be not the last one) from the updated ProC series, it optimally works on 55-65 watts and produces just a phenomenal amount of taste and vapor. A wide range of airflow control is a bonus. If anyone is going to look for the most delicious DL atomizer – you need to give ProCore Air a try. For all the fans of MTL it is possible to separately purchase an EXCEED Air atomizer, which will match ESPION Solo in color.

But it's time to return to the summer question. I immensely love the ESPION line, but the design of Solo is still completely dependent on the tastes of a particular individual and can seem both immensely attractive, or not at all noteworthy. The technical execution of the model is as high as it possibly can be. The dimensions do not differ much from the brethren, despite the use of a much larger battery. But the weight can be too much for someone. It's pointless to discuss the price - for this money you will get maximum quality, beautiful from all sides and even somewhat unique device.

Thank you all for the time devoted to reading my review, not too many photos this time, as soon as I will make some good shots, I'll add them.

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  Joyetech ProCore Air Plus Launching
Posted by: Ellen - 04-03-2018, 03:58 PM - Forum: Joyetech New Products - Replies (23)

Dear all,

We’re glad to introduce you a new ProCore atomizer - the ProCore Air Plus sub-ohm tank.
Presenting the next generation of high-caliber sub-ohm system, the ProCore Air Plus atomizer retains high-performance and significantly upgrading the capacity to 5.5ml with the new bulging glass tube. Unique and colorful, we also have more spare resin and cellular tube versions available. ProC series heads are all capable: from direct lung or mouth to lung, from massive vapor production to optimal flavor. Meanwhile, its push-to-open system makes filling easily.

Click to learn more about the ProCore Air Plus atomizer.

Joyetech Group
Apr. 3, 2018

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  NHS patients should be allowed to vape indoors and even in their beds, public health
Posted by: Vapeoholic - 03-31-2018, 11:31 PM - Forum: E-cigarette News and Regulations - Replies (4)

Hospitals have been told to start selling e-cigarettes and letting patients vape indoors - and even in bed - under controversial new health advice.  

Public Health England (PHE) said every smoker struggling to quit, including pregnant women, should be encouraged to take up e-cigarettes.

Officials urged hospitals to replace smoking shelters with vaping lounges, and said patients should even be allowed to vape in their beds, if they had single rooms.

And they said the devices should be given out by GPs on prescription, to encourage wider takeup.

The calls come as PHE published an independent review into the evidence surrounding e-cigarettes.

The report, by experts from King's College London and the UK Centre for Tobacco and Alcohol Studies, the University of Stirling and Cancer Research UK, suggests e-cigarettes are helping up to 57,000 smokers a year to quit.

And it restated previous claims that vaping is at least 95 per cent less harmful than smoking, while putting the increased cancer risk at less than 0.5 per cent.

Officials said smoking kills up to two in three smokers, yet half of smokers wrongly belived e-cigarettes were as dangerous as smoking.

In the new report, PHE throws its weight behind vaping, stating that anyone struggling to quit smoking should be advised to try e-cigarettes.  Health officials encouraged all employers to set aside rooms for staff using e-cigarettes as a means to give up smoking.

But they called on NHS hospitals to lead the way in “making it easy” for vapers to find somewhere to enjoy e-cigarettes within their buildings, while enforcing a total ban on smoking anywhere on hospital grounds.

Martin Dockrell, PHE tobacco control lead, said hospitals should consider setting aside single occupancy rooms for vapers.

"We would certainly encourage them to make at least some single occupancy rooms where people can vape,” he said, also calling for the creation of shared lounges for vapers.

The authors of the review said pregnant women who smoke should be encouraged to switch to e-cigarettes, though they said research on this is only just underway.

Author Prof Linda Bauld said pregnant women should never be discouraged from vaping if the alternative was that they continued smoking.

“The priority is that we don’t want pregnant women smoking now, we want them to stop. We cant wait three years for the trial,” she said describing the advice to pregnant women as a “pragmatic” approach.

Prof. John Newton, Director for Health Improvement at PHE said: “Every minute someone is admitted to hospital from smoking, with around 79,000 deaths a year in England alone.

“Our new review reinforces the finding that vaping is a fraction of the risk of smoking, at least 95% less harmful, and of negligible risk to bystanders. Yet over half of smokers either falsely believe that vaping is as harmful as smoking or just don’t know.

“It would be tragic if thousands of smokers who could quit with the help of an e-cigarette are being put off due to false fears about their safety.”

Ann McNeill, lead author and professor of tobacco addiction at King's College London, said: "It's of great concern that smokers still have such a poor understanding about what causes the harm from smoking.

"When people smoke tobacco cigarettes, they inhale a lethal mix of 7,000 smoke constituents, 70 of which are known to cause cancer.

"People smoke for the nicotine, but contrary to what the vast majority believe, nicotine causes little if any of the harm.

"The toxic smoke is the culprit and is the overwhelming cause of all the tobacco-related disease and death."

Joyce Robins, from Patient Concern, expressed unease about the plans.

“Hospitals are packed out as it is, a lot of them don’t have an inch to spare with far too many patients being treated in corridors. If they can find any spare rooms they should be using them to treat patients, not turning them into vaping areas,” she said.


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  Electronic Cigarettes (Regulation) Bill (HC Bill 59)
Posted by: Vapeoholic - 03-31-2018, 11:26 PM - Forum: E-cigarette News and Regulations - Replies (1)

could this be the moment we have been waiting for.....
Click me

Electronic Cigarettes (Regulation) Bill (HC Bill 59)

Make provision for the regulation of the sale and use of electronic cigarettes;
to exempt electronic cigarettes from UK law derived from the Tobacco
Products Directive; and for connected purposes.

great news for us but not so great news for the poor vendors that stuck to the law and have forked out upto £100,000 on getting 40 bottles passed just to see all these sites popping up only selling shortfills and not had to pay ziltch if they are using third party nic shots.

This Act comes into force on 30 March 2019.

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  2018-Star of March
Posted by: Ellen - 03-31-2018, 01:57 PM - Forum: Star of the month - Replies (19)

Hey guys,

It's our 'Star of the Month' time again.

After serious consideration we made the decision that the March's credit goes to SkyeNova . Congratulations!

Thus He/She is the our Star of March.

This time, the prize will be the new EXCEED EDGE kit.
Please PM me with your detailed mailing address (including name and phone number).

We're always glad to have your reviews here for any Joyetech products.
And we'd like to hear your voices regarding any ideas or suggestions.

Stay tuned and be active.

Next month, you'll be the star.

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  Joyetech eGo AIO ECO honest review.
Posted by: Crazybasil - 03-30-2018, 03:08 PM - Forum: Products Review - Replies (8)

Hello, dear forum users! Today I want to tell you about the novelty from Joyetech - eGo AIO ECO device. The abbreviation ECO (which stands for Ecology, Conservation, Optimization) is placed in the name not by chance, it reflects the key features of the novelty - according to the manufacturer, the emphasis in it is on optimizing the battery and increasing its lifespan. Is it so? I'll tell you later. And first, I will look at the device itself and try to understand how such a compact body could fit such a wide-profile model, whose purpose is not only serve for beginners, but also for experienced users.
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Love begins with a box, and for ECO Joyetech created a unique packaging. Using the device I had a feeling of "souvenir", a gift to the fans of Joyetech products. It begins from the unpacking, the retractable case welcomes the user, in which ECO itself is conveniently located. All the instructions, a USB cable, a spare coil and a bag with spare parts are resting under it. And, since the release of the eGo AIO ECO was timed to coincide with the decade of Joyetech, the design of the device itself also hid various references to the most popular models of the manufacturer and the milestones of the vaping movement as a whole.
Here you will find the racing stripes (it's a pity that there are not the same color combinations as the eVic VT), and the inscription "Keep calm and vape on" straight from the vape bands, and seven different backlight options (hello, AIO!) - changing them is very simple, just turn off the device and hold the Fire button, then choose the color you like: red, green, light green, blue, blue, purple, white, or turn off the light altogether.
The device itself is available in five colors - red, blue, black and gray (they will be coming with a white strip) and green (with a steel strip).
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In such a compact size those small details look more than appropriate: the device looks stylish and complete, without causing irritation or wrong feelings.

So, we have a vape pen, made as "all-in-one" - the battery and atomizer are inseparable from each other. With a diameter of only 14 millimeters this is absolutely not critical, and for easy cleaning, the glass can be removed from the tank. Refueling is at the top, new BFHN coil head plays the role of a air shaft, and all the free space between it and the glass serves as a filling hole . The tank will fit 1.2 milliliters of liquid: an excellent result for a device weighing only 37.5 grams and with a height of 113 millimeters. The liquid consumption promises to be very low, because the device produces a voltage of only 1.85V - it's about 6 watts when using the (so far) single available BFHN 0.5 Ohm coil. The coil itself is designed exclusively for tight cigarette-like inhale, without the possibility of adjustment (only with changeable top-caps, which are sold separately).
Naturally, it is necessary to pour a high-nicotine liquid (HN in the name of the coil head stands for High Nicotine) and Joyetech suggests to use nicotine salts. At the first test I have not found these salts yet, so used 50/50 classic with a nic strength of 6 milligrams.
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I checked and the data on the site - one refill should be enough for 150 puffs, and the charge of the built-in 650mAh battery is almost 350 puffs. A small minus is revealed - fast charging mode is not provided here, device manages the standard 1A charging current. I've had honestly checked the number of puffs I made, the result was as follows: one refill of the atomizer is enough for about 100-120 puffs, the battery has lived almost three refills, that is, about 300-330 puffs. Nicotine of 6 milligrams seemed still not enough for me, although a throat-hit and taste were very good. But then I have finally bought some nicsalt e-liquid and, oh boy, it was perfect! I have used 50/50 nicsalts with 35 and 50 milligrams strength - they do provide serious power to fill your body with nicotine and are perfect to use with AIO ECO.
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In general, the parameters of eGo AIO ECO will make it not only a great option for those who want to get rid of bad habit, but also an excellent spare device for advanced vapers - it will come to the rescue in places where it is impossible to use a full-powered electronic cigarette, or help out in the moment when the battery of your main device is running out. The most delicious here is the price tag - this device is very cheap and easy to get.
This is a worthy alternative for any disposable devices. I still use ECO now and have absolutely no trouble (besides the price tag for nicsalt in Russia) with it.

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  Ippolit's review, Joyetech Espion Solo & ProCore Air 10th Anniversary Limited Edition
Posted by: Ippolit - 03-29-2018, 07:25 PM - Forum: Products Review - No Replies

Joyetech Espion Solo & ProCore Air 10th Anniversary Limited Edition.

Coming soon worldwide!

I’ve been looking forward to using this marvel for weeks, and here it is!

There are already some very good reviews on Joyetech Social with all the details about the technology and the specifications, so I’ll concentrate on my user experience.

The Solo exceeded my expectations, I was anticipating something special and it certainly is that. I am used to Joyetech’s quality builds and materials but I was surprised at the fluid way the elements of this mod and tank have come together- it just oozes class and quality. From the colour coordinated tank and mod to the excellent filling system and touchscreen, it just works - aesthetically and practically.

I couldn’t wait to set it up!

I installed a 21700 battery (surely the way to go with it’s increased power and capacity) via the magnetic side door, attached the tank to the well machined 510 fitting, set the time and date using the very smooth and intuitive touch controls (note that after setting the time and date you must swipe away from that screen to confirm the settings - that’s not in the manual!) I was ready to fill with my favourite Double Menthol, yes I live dangerously 眨眼

I love the flip filling system on my Aries tank, but the new system on the ProCore Air tank is even better. A simple push slides away the top and the drip tip to reveal a single slot on the top of the tank, so easy to fill! It’s secure too, it hasn’t leaked in my pocket or bag.


Filling completed, I was keen to give it a try…   I don’t like masses of clouds, nor a hot feel to the vape; it was easy using the touchscreen to adjust the Watts setting to experiment, the screen locks when you press the fire button so you cannot accidentally change the setting in operation. I usually settle for somewhere between 18-30 Watts, the supplied ProCA (0.4ohm) coil is really powerful and was instantly producing a very flavoursome vaping experience even with my low power settings. Incidentally I have been using the first coil heavily for some days now and there has been no degradation in performance nor any gumming up of the coil or cotton.

The engraved metal fire button is huge and very positive in operation, there must be a high quality microswitch behind there, typical of the Joyetech focus on quality.

Exploring the menus with easy swipes revealed plenty of information about puff total, battery percentage as well as the temperature control, preheat and so on. I use a lot of complex menu based control systems in my profession and I have to say that Joyetech have created a simple and intuitive interface here, that’s not easy to do. It’s a bright and sharp screen too but not overly so, easily visible when outside where my Primo Mini is a little dim.

By accident I discovered that with the Solo turned off, holding down the fire button displays a useful clock and date display, nice touch!


It’s a seriously good mod, with an excellent tank and coil combination, so much so that it has become my “go-to” vape, my beloved Primo Mini is now on the shelf looking at me…. If I had to find a “Con” or two - they would be that the onscreen display of amps and puff time after a fire is just a shade too short. It would also be good to have the option of using a 24 hour clock. As the firmware is easily user upgradeable maybe such changes could be made in the future.

Overall - I love it! Get one before they sell out folks.

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  Is vaping saving you money?
Posted by: Vapeoholic - 03-28-2018, 01:57 AM - Forum: Polls - Replies (8)

As the title said, did switching to vaping save you money?

Or you're like me, spending more on vaping compared to smoking cigarettes?

Please let me know by voting on the poll!

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